Harvard students comment on "Uncertain Risks"

I think the most interesting aspect of our discussion would be the general differences between risk and uncertainty, as discussed in the essay. As someone who isn't quantitatively inclined (despite the valiant efforts of this course), the essay did an excellent job in highlighting the distinction between these two concepts in a way that can be followed by those who struggle with mathematics. I think what will also be interesting is discussing how these concepts relate to decision making. If you have a low risk but high uncertainty situation, your choice of actions can go in a divvy of directions. While prediction to decision seems to be the most straightforward way of seeing things, I think risk and uncertainty play into our decision making in a way that is more stressful than predictions.

After reflecting on “Uncertain Risks” by Profs. Goodman and De Vivo, I found the paragraph that compares the COVID-19 pandemic to the Spanish flu most illuminating as a non-quantitatively-inclined reader. Readers who are not quantitative-focused may be more willing to listen to articles and reports that compare COVID-19 to the Spanish flu. However, the authors explain in this paragraph that there is a 100x lower chance of dying from COVID-19 than dying from the Spanish flu. It is easier to visualize how much lower the risk with COVID-19 is when explicitly compared to the Spanish flu. The quantitative points in this paragraph also clearly show why the two events are not necessarily comparable without focusing on specifics that would confuse someone who is not quantitatively inclined. This paragraph is also illuminating because many media articles compared COVID-19 to the Spanish flu when in reality this comparison is not as strong as initially presented.

The most illuminating part of this article is the part where readers can actually relate to. The discussion on the Covid-19 pandemic. These are prime examples of uncertainty we've been living in for years now, whether that be the actual transmission of the disease, the effectiveness of masks, timeline for vaccine distribution, variants etc. There is so much uncertainty involved here which the readers can relate to. Uncertainty about the upcoming academic year widespread. Will it be hybrid? Part in person? All in person? Who knows

As a non-quantitatively inclined reader myself, there are a couple of aspects of this impactful article that most clearly break down the reality of risk and uncertainty as it relates to the coronavirus pandemic. First, the distinction between the four high/low-risk and high/low-uncertainty categories earlier on in the article is helpful. Even if the reader is fuzzier on the exact numbers, they can easily conceptualize the relative risk and uncertainty of the common sense examples for each category. Following this discussion with the implication that the pandemic lies closer to space missions on the uncertainty spectrum, but closer to lying on the couch on the risk spectrum, makes the argument easy to follow. An additional strength is framing data as "prior observations." Like the previous example, this part of the discussion relates the quantitative to something non-quantitative that is perhaps recognizable to a wider audience. Finally, the explanation of uncertainty as "how well we know the odds" is a concise but effective way to drive home a key point from this class, that just because there is uncertainty does not mean that scientists don't know what is going on.

After reading Profs. Goodman and de Vivo's article titled "Uncertain Risks," I believe that paragraph six (beginning with "The fraction scientists seek") is the most effective section of the piece at developing understanding of risk and uncertainty for non-quantitatively inclined readers. Primarily, it conveys very clearly the different methods of quantitatively communicating risk and uncertainty. Although it may be obvious to some, parsing out the quantitative synonyms—like "1-in-a-hundred" and "1%"—and commonly misunderstand concepts—like "5% uncertainty"—is incredibly valuable.

The part of the discussion that I think would be most illuminating to non-quantitative readers is this idea of understanding risk and uncertainty and how that relates to the news. As we know, the new channels are fighting for attention and in order to increase eyeballs they usually use misleading titles or data because the crazier it looks, the more likely they are to lure someone in. I think regardless of how quantitative someone is, they can always think about the uncertainty of these news article predictions and understand that no matter what there’s always a chance that these numbers are misleading. I think this could help people take a step back and stop immediatly forming life decisions or actions based on a quick glimpse of a news title or graph.

I think the most illuminating part of the discussion for non-quantitatively-inclined readers is the part discussing the difference between low-uncertainty experiences and extremely high-uncertainty experiences. This part illustrates a good idea of what uncertainty is without using numerical data. Furthermore, the comparison between hunting and russian roulette prior gives a good explanation of the difference between risk and uncertainty.

Similarly to what Will has written, I think that the part of the article most illuminating for non-quantitatively inclined readers would be a very number-heavy paragraph. In the paragraph that begins with "What fraction of people....", Prof Goodman and Prof De Vivo clearly spell out the calculations for what the fraction of people having the experience being evaluated die from COVID-19 is. Because this solution is prefaced with step-by-step arithmetic, this part of the discussion will be most illuminating for non-quantitatively-inclined readers such as myself.

Similar to Daniel, I think the most illuminating part of this article for non-quantitatively-inclined readers is the discussion comparing low-uncertainty experiences and high-uncertainty experiences in our lives. This comparison of events that we can relate to, allows us as readers to imagine our decision-making in these situations. Thus, we are able to evaluate the way we actions we make in our lives, and the way in which uncertainty affects them.

So for example, if we see the coronavirus is infecting people in the United States, the known known is that it affects older people more and people with certain preexisting conditions. We also might have some sparse data and some rudimentary understanding of the mechanisms that lead to the spread of the virus and the way it leads to hospitalizations and deaths. From this, we might calculate a risk (or the odds) of death and hospitalizations. However, this risk may have a large uncertainty because we know that we do not know a whole number of things like does it spread through inanimate objects or how capable is the government in withstanding public anger when initiating lockdowns or how many people will actually wear masks. This might give us an initial range of uncertainty but then we also have the unknown unknown items such as we have no idea if another natural disaster occurs or if another country invades another country or how and when will the virus mutate. These are all unknown unknowns that further exacerbate the uncertainty. If there is good reason to worry that tail-risks can have dramatic impact on the outcome of the pandemic on # of deaths, then we might model with fat tails to represent the unknown unknown and we might keep a large range to model the high uncertainty reflected in the known unknowns.

I appreciated the real-world examples of the combinations of risk and uncertainty (whether high or low for each). They concretely demonstrated the difference between risk and uncertainty in a way accessible for all readers. Perhaps including a graphic with the example scenarios (e.g. 2x2 table of risk on horizontal axis and uncertainty on vertical axis, similar to a Prisoner’s Dilemma table) would be a quick way to reference the difference between risk and uncertainty. Overall, I thought the essay addressed an important topic, since risk and uncertainty are often used interchangeably in everyday conversation but have different meanings.

I surely agree, @vincentli -- these are the draft images we ultimately didn't include, but clearly should!

Unequivocally, the passage in this essay on COVID statistics was eye-opening to read for someone "non-quantitatively-inclined" such as me. While the language of low-uncertainty and high-uncertainty experiences was highly interesting and illuminating, I can't imagine organically changing behaviour based on these discoveries. When the statistics are set out in such a way that they are in the essay though; in plain language, and particularly in comparative context; to the average annual death rate, to the death rate of the Spanish flu, etc., I feel like I'm being introduced to a coherent narrative, based in fact, which will tangibly impact my thoughts, opinions, and thus behaviours.

The content, then, I think is excellent! It sounds silly, but perhaps a good way to impart it other than in essay format would be through a TikTok. While a short, tiktok format videos starts off mostly being watched by the younger demographic that likes the app, I see the videos being shared now frequently on other platforms, such as Twitter and Facebook, which have a larger reach for broader swathes of the population!

I believe that the thoroughness and the many examples given when exploring what risk and uncertainty mean at a fundamental level are extremely helpful for non-quantitively-inclined readers. One of the main objectives of the essay is exactly giving a quantitative look at a problem many people view only qualitatively (will happen, may happen, won't happen). Considering there is no escape from the quantitative analysis, I believe the way the essay handles it is excellent, by explaining at a basic level what is risk and uncertainty, using several examples along the way, in a way that almost all readers paying attention and that understand the basics of fractions and percentages will be able to understand. I also believe that the connection back to the pandemic will be specially illuminating for readers who hadn't considered uncertainty in risk from a quantitative POV before, as it equips them to better think about the numbers and predictions that are being shown to them in the media, and reflect on what they really mean, and what would be a reasonable response.

The section that I expect would be most illuminating for non-quantitatively inclined readers would be the part two situations with different uncertainties. In this section it looks first at a low-uncertainty situation (Russian Roulette) then at a high uncertainty situation (Apollo 11). I think it is very important to apply these easily comprehensible examples towards two drastically levels of uncertainty because it makes it a much easier access point. Jumping straight into numbers with little context can lead to people just giving up and tuning out the rest of the information. However, using these tangible situations and very little, simple math it is much easier to get a foot in the door of this information. Once that ground layer of understanding people can feel calmer and more confident that they will be able to comprehend the rest of the information. Also, having two different examples with different levels and factors of uncertainty allows the coinciding information about COVID-19 much easier to comprehend.

I believe the main takeaway of the essay for non-quantitatively-inclined readers should be the discussion of why consider uncertainty in the first place. Humans are not perfect and when we attempt to theorize, experiment, or evaluate observable phenomena there is no way our results will hold 100% of the time. However, having a notion of 'error-spread' or uncertainty is crucial to make this idea transparent and thus make better science and even everyday decisions.

I think using the example of the One Deer Hunter Russian roulette story throughout the explanation and then weaving different components of the topic to be understood using the same example is something that non-quantitatively inclined readers would find to be most helpful. Especially since it allows them to apply this knowledge to a real-world working scenario and view the different definitions of the risk and uncertainty can be more easily applied. The example is used in the first paragraph to compare more complex odds with many factors playing a role such as deer hunting to the easily calculate odds when playing Russian Roulette. By then using these same scenarios to explain low uncertainty and high experiences we are able to better understand the details behind them.

I found this essay very engaging and provided the reader with commentary and discussion that could be more easily digested than trying to interpret lots of statistics and quantitative evidence about this subject. Personally, I would consider myself a non-quantitatively-inclined reader and find that my best understanding of topics comes from broken down discussion and interpretation that is focused on the topic rather than trying to interpret all of the numbers that support that topic. In this essay, I appreciated the lens that deconstructed the complexities of these ideas; even in the first paragraph, there was a quote from a famous movie that one might know and then some explanation that was connected to common known activities like hunting and Russian roulette. From that point, I already had a better grasp of the knowledge trying to be conveyed than if I had tried to read a daunting quantitatively focused essay. The fact that the Deer Hunter Russian Roulette story returned to the conversation to describe the differences in uncertainty and risk which was also very illuminating and grounded my understanding. The reader is then able to connect the examples at the beginning of the essay to how it all relates to COVID-19 and epidemiology, which was a great way to help the reader to best understand the basics of risk and uncertainty and then more easily apply it to their uptake of this knowledge surrounding the current pandemic.